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LSSJ broly vs perfect cell
Topic Started: Dec 15 2011, 03:23 AM (985 Views)
thanatho
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Who would win? Note:this broly is from the first broly movie
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Jamason
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SSj3 Goten

Cell owns Broly. If this were 2nd coming it might be a different story..
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Balthazor
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I'm damn serious

Cell gets thrashed,Broly is nearing ssj2 power as a lssj
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p123
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Agreed Broly M8 is a monster. Ssj power above Gohan and Goku and his Lssj form seems to be a substantial boost as well.

I think Lssj Broly M8 = Buff PC probably works out best
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CatouttaHell
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LSSjin Broly stomps. I think he might even take out SPC to be honest.
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p123
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Really? Why do you say that? I noticed you have SPC nowhere near SSJ2 Gohan right?
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CatouttaHell
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I have Enraged SSjin 2 Gohan >>> SSjin 2 Gohan >= SPC.

From a manga standpoint I think Broly would take out SPC even in Movie 8 but that was based on the insane gaps I have for all Ki tanking feats.

After reading your breakdown as to why Toei sucks with Ki tanking feats I'm not sure where to put him anymore.
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+ Pyrus
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Where is this breakdown? Care to link me?
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p123
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Oh ok. Yea, it's a shame TOEI ruins the whole aspect of tanking...

It's best to just use formulas for that...

Gohan M10 should help determine Broly's power in M8, but Gohan's M10 power is highly debatable as well..
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CatouttaHell
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Dec 15 2011, 11:31 PM
Where is this breakdown? Care to link me?
Well it's not really a breakdown but I meant the points he made in this thread.

The Movie 5 contradictions and the filler where Vegeta is hurt by Cell's punch but tanks his Gyarikku Hou pretty much seals the deal that Toei tanking feats are meaningless.
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p123
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M5 tanking sealed it for me. Just doesn't make sense.

FF Cooler flys through a freaking KKx20 KHH from Goku

Then 50xKK ( SSJ ) Goku tanks FF Cooler

That's just impossible.
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CatouttaHell
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Yeah even with the 100x SSjin multiplier that's insane. Toei thinks Ki attacks are nigh-useless.
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p123
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Where are you getting 100x from?
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The way i see it, even thi they take place in two seperate alternate universes, the z fighters against broly in movie 8 are the same strength as there counterparts during the cell games before gohans goes ssj2. They managed to take out broly without ssj2 power even if broly was stronger then them all individually. Cell on the other hand may not have been on par with brolys strength, but he had his regeneration abilities and better techniques. so it seems like a pick em to me.

SPC on the other hand i think would take the fighht with his new strength and IT abilites
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p123
Dec 16 2011, 02:30 AM
Where are you getting 100x from?
I don't follow the scouter numbers anymore so I wind up with 100x for SSjin.

This is what the Saiya-jin arc implies initially IMO, but the Freeza arc retcons out:

Kaio-ken x3 - 48,000
Vegeta - 36,000
Kaio-ken x2 - 32,000
Kaio-ken - 16,000
Son Goku - 8,000

Son Goku is shocked that he can't keep up with Full Power Vegeta with the Kaio-ken x2 when he couldn't keep up with Suppressed Vegeta with the Kaio-ken.

Kaio-ken x2 should be far, far stronger than Kaio-ken realistically.

Even the Daiz specifically states Kaio-ken x2 >>> Kaio-ken several times...

Using that logic I then wind up with:

SSjin Goku - 100
100% Freeza - 90
50% Freeza - 45
Kaio-ken x20 - 40
Kaio-ken x10 - 20
Kaio-ken - 2
Son Goku - 1
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